Comments on: Personal Data Privacy and Zeo http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/ The Art + Science of Sleep Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:45:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: m. tyson http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-15861 m. tyson Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:50:02 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-15861 I have dreamt someone would realize a device like the zeo for years. Now I researched this website a little more, I am heavily dissapointed. Behind all this corporate-speak, what zeo really wants is NOT to make a profit from selling their hardware, which would be absolutely legitimate, but they want to make a profit from selling the sleep data. The company, zeo, is not honest and 100% upfront about this and tries to hide behind a typical wall of incomprehensible corprate speak (being true to our shareholders bla bla). Yes, I would like to buy a device like the zeo because I have problems with my sleep, But I would never give you the data. Why can't I just access the data in a plain, vanilla ASCII file and import it into Excel or R, OF COURSE NOT BY GIVING IT TO YOU FIRST BY MEANS OF UPLOADING? Oh great there is a java library which apparently makes it possible that I program such an application myself, which should be included in the with the product. "Private does not mean me and you, it just means me." - I really like that quote. I really like the idea of zeo, but I also HATE that companies nowadays not just want the consumers money (which is absolutely okay), but they want the consumers data without paying for it - anonymized or not, why should I, the consumer, give you my data for free so that you can make a profit from it? I have dreamt someone would realize a device like the zeo for years. Now I researched this website a little more, I am heavily dissapointed. Behind all this corporate-speak, what zeo really wants is NOT to make a profit from selling their hardware, which would be absolutely legitimate, but they want to make a profit from selling the sleep data. The company, zeo, is not honest and 100% upfront about this and tries to hide behind a typical wall of incomprehensible corprate speak (being true to our shareholders bla bla). Yes, I would like to buy a device like the zeo because I have problems with my sleep, But I would never give you the data. Why can’t I just access the data in a plain, vanilla ASCII file and import it into Excel or R, OF COURSE NOT BY GIVING IT TO YOU FIRST BY MEANS OF UPLOADING? Oh great there is a java library which apparently makes it possible that I program such an application myself, which should be included in the with the product. “Private does not mean me and you, it just means me.” – I really like that quote. I really like the idea of zeo, but I also HATE that companies nowadays not just want the consumers money (which is absolutely okay), but they want the consumers data without paying for it – anonymized or not, why should I, the consumer, give you my data for free so that you can make a profit from it?

]]> By: Let’s Talk about Sex http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-11740 Let’s Talk about Sex Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:43:56 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-11740 [...] a also study we couldn’t have done without your help. Just to get a fraction of this information across different ages and sexes would have taken [...] [...] a also study we couldn’t have done without your help. Just to get a fraction of this information across different ages and sexes would have taken [...]

]]> By: Privacy Activists, Rejoice! ZeoDecoderViewer is in alpha! http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-4310 Privacy Activists, Rejoice! ZeoDecoderViewer is in alpha! Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:46:22 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-4310 [...] there are plenty of reasons to not admit that someone’s words hit a nerve, but to say that we didn’t care, didn’t listen, and didn’t address this issue after you told us just how you felt would be false.  We care deeply about our users–and we [...] [...] there are plenty of reasons to not admit that someone’s words hit a nerve, but to say that we didn’t care, didn’t listen, and didn’t address this issue after you told us just how you felt would be false.  We care deeply about our users–and we [...]

]]> By: What’s Going On http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-4163 What’s Going On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:02:17 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-4163 [...] of our job, after all. The real challenge is figuring out how to help everyone.  Some want more data privacy.  Others want more experts.  Others still want more tools, apps, and functions. Resource [...] [...] of our job, after all. The real challenge is figuring out how to help everyone.  Some want more data privacy.  Others want more experts.  Others still want more tools, apps, and functions. Resource [...]

]]> By: Ben@Zeo http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1918 Ben@Zeo Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:44:04 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-1918 Good news - in our mission to continue to open up the Zeo platform we have released the Zeo Raw Data Library. Direct access to brainwaves! More here: http://blog.myzeo.com/zeo-raw-data-library-free-your-mind/ Good news – in our mission to continue to open up the Zeo platform we have released the Zeo Raw Data Library. Direct access to brainwaves!

More here:
http://blog.myzeo.com/zeo-raw-data-library-free-your-mind/

]]> By: Ben@Zeo http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1345 Ben@Zeo Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:55:17 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-1345 All, Many people on this comment thread (and elsewhere) have requested an open version of the SD Card with unencrypted data. We just released a Data Decoder Library that opens up the data on the SD card (sorry it has taken so long!). This library is for developers (ie. it doesn’t have a pretty UI) and gives unrestricted access to your data without uploading to mySleep.myZeo.com. We are listening, we are learning, and we are making changes! It’s you data and you can do what you like with it. You can check out the release and download it here: http://developers.myzeo.com/data-decoder-library/ I blogged on the topic here as well: http://blog.myzeo.com/accouncing-the-zeo-data-decoder-library/ And feel free to discuss the library in our forum here: http://blog.myzeo.com/forum/zeo-sd-card-decoder-library/ All,
Many people on this comment thread (and elsewhere) have requested an open version of the SD Card with unencrypted data.

We just released a Data Decoder Library that opens up the data on the SD card (sorry it has taken so long!). This library is for developers (ie. it doesn’t have a pretty UI) and gives unrestricted access to your data without uploading to mySleep.myZeo.com.

We are listening, we are learning, and we are making changes! It’s you data and you can do what you like with it.

You can check out the release and download it here:
http://developers.myzeo.com/data-decoder-library/

I blogged on the topic here as well:
http://blog.myzeo.com/accouncing-the-zeo-data-decoder-library/

And feel free to discuss the library in our forum here:
http://blog.myzeo.com/forum/zeo-sd-card-decoder-library/

]]> By: Zeo Sleep Research Center, Part 1 http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Zeo Sleep Research Center, Part 1 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:58:45 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-1277 [...] may not be enough for them. We suggest reading our privacy policy, terms of use, and this blog post to get a better picture of how we’re dealing with this issue. If you have any additional [...] [...] may not be enough for them. We suggest reading our privacy policy, terms of use, and this blog post to get a better picture of how we’re dealing with this issue. If you have any additional [...]

]]> By: Harold Knaack http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1053 Harold Knaack Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:27:43 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-1053 Private does not mean me and you, it just means me. I purchase the Zeo machine to use; I did not trade my privacy for it. If I did, the machine would have been fee and I would have been part of a reimbursed national study. Private does not mean me and you, it just means me. I purchase the Zeo machine to use; I did not trade my privacy for it. If I did, the machine would have been fee and I would have been part of a reimbursed national study.

]]> By: Giles Sorrells http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1019 Giles Sorrells Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:13:50 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-1019 My second issue is that I can't keep the headband on more than 3 nights in a row. If I tighten it up more than I have been I get a headache! ZEO needs to improve the design. Right now I'm using the pod as a high priced alarm clock! My second issue is that I can’t keep the headband on more than 3 nights in a row. If I tighten it up more than I have been I get a headache! ZEO needs to improve the design. Right now I’m using the pod as a high priced alarm clock!

]]> By: Giles Sorrells http://blog.myzeo.com/personal-data-privacy-and-zeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1018 Giles Sorrells Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:10:06 +0000 http://blog.myzeo.com/?p=388#comment-1018 Two issues.!) A number of people in this world do not have a broadband connection and need a PC based download and analysis capability (excel is adequate). I was using your web based system, went on a 2 month vacation where I did not have broadband. Consequently I lost 2 months of data and I am reluctant to restart. Two issues.!) A number of people in this world do not have a broadband connection and need a PC based download and analysis capability (excel is adequate). I was using your web based system, went on a 2 month vacation where I did not have broadband. Consequently I lost 2 months of data and I am reluctant to restart.

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